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	<title>Comments on: VoIP&#8217;s Best News, Ever</title>
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	<description>Adhearsion, Ruby, VoIP, Entrepreneurship</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Troy Davis</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds a bit lame to say, but I don't think VoIP is disruptive for consumers in the way that most users currently purchase it.

Specific products are: Skype is disruptive.  Google Voice/Grand Central is disruptive.  VoIP is very disruptive in the wholesale world (SIP/all-IP transport, softswitches).

But hosted SIP PBXes/phones as provided by Vonage, Speakeasy VoIP, and the like are just cheaper (and sometimes a little more convenient) than landlines.  

It's not a Clayton Christensen-style disruptive innovation that would be evaluated on totally different merits.  Customers evaluate it against cell phones and landlines, and like you said, cell often wins.

Many hosted PBX vendors even disable the knobs that might be disruptive (or at least uniquely appealing), like by disallowing devices other than their own.

As a service, pure VoIP will never turn the consumer phone industry on its head.  On the upside, at least SIP is finally easy to setup...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds a bit lame to say, but I don&#8217;t think VoIP is disruptive for consumers in the way that most users currently purchase it.</p>
<p>Specific products are: Skype is disruptive.  Google Voice/Grand Central is disruptive.  VoIP is very disruptive in the wholesale world (SIP/all-IP transport, softswitches).</p>
<p>But hosted SIP PBXes/phones as provided by Vonage, Speakeasy VoIP, and the like are just cheaper (and sometimes a little more convenient) than landlines.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a Clayton Christensen-style disruptive innovation that would be evaluated on totally different merits.  Customers evaluate it against cell phones and landlines, and like you said, cell often wins.</p>
<p>Many hosted PBX vendors even disable the knobs that might be disruptive (or at least uniquely appealing), like by disallowing devices other than their own.</p>
<p>As a service, pure VoIP will never turn the consumer phone industry on its head.  On the upside, at least SIP is finally easy to setup&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian West</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsutomu Shimomura did that in the day of Analog Cell phones... its not possible to do this now without extensive crypto gear.  

/b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsutomu Shimomura did that in the day of Analog Cell phones&#8230; its not possible to do this now without extensive crypto gear.  </p>
<p>/b</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Phillips</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason, a few things....

Although I haven't kept up with where it's went, Truphone had integrated a feature into their mobile application which used another company who automated connection to networks with the awkward connection policies you described. It was a data collection nightmare but that was their job. Since they should cover most of the companies who sell off-the-shelf wifi protection systems like that to corporations, it should work pretty well once you've entered your username/password and accepted the EULA on a previous trip. For premium networks I think it could automatically deduct money from your Truphone balance to pay for it or give you a much nicer prompt to enter the information. Don't quote me on the last part though since it's been a while.

Jason, I don't envision all the cell phones of the world seamlessly switching to wifi anytime there's any accessible network available. A good chunk of the workforce in a place like NYC is white-collar workers who either already have wifi at work and home or whose employers would put in wifi in a heartbeat it if meant that their calls got the added benefit of encryption during a time when cell phone calls are generally distrusted by everyone.

@Brian UMA is basically what Truphone does although they don't obviously own the carrier's radio access network. Instead they own the phone number and proxy calls back-to-back to you. Cool stuff, though.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason, a few things&#8230;.</p>
<p>Although I haven&#8217;t kept up with where it&#8217;s went, Truphone had integrated a feature into their mobile application which used another company who automated connection to networks with the awkward connection policies you described. It was a data collection nightmare but that was their job. Since they should cover most of the companies who sell off-the-shelf wifi protection systems like that to corporations, it should work pretty well once you&#8217;ve entered your username/password and accepted the EULA on a previous trip. For premium networks I think it could automatically deduct money from your Truphone balance to pay for it or give you a much nicer prompt to enter the information. Don&#8217;t quote me on the last part though since it&#8217;s been a while.</p>
<p>Jason, I don&#8217;t envision all the cell phones of the world seamlessly switching to wifi anytime there&#8217;s any accessible network available. A good chunk of the workforce in a place like NYC is white-collar workers who either already have wifi at work and home or whose employers would put in wifi in a heartbeat it if meant that their calls got the added benefit of encryption during a time when cell phone calls are generally distrusted by everyone.</p>
<p>@Brian UMA is basically what Truphone does although they don&#8217;t obviously own the carrier&#8217;s radio access network. Instead they own the phone number and proxy calls back-to-back to you. Cool stuff, though.  <img src='http://jicksta.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked into UMA technology?  T-Mobile currently provides unlimited UMA/VoIP calling as an add-on to their plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked into UMA technology?  T-Mobile currently provides unlimited UMA/VoIP calling as an add-on to their plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WiFi is not a panacea for this exact reason. Rarely does one have access to WiFi in the way presumed. Most corporations keep their WiFi under lock and key, not granting guest access. And when they do have guest access, many times you have to accept a TOS via a webpage to get access each new session (think iPhones on Starbucks networks). Even at major hotels you are still required to sign-up and pay for access on a website. All of this creates friction in terms of seamless use of VoIP over WiFi when out in the wild.

Someone has to build a reliable global network that is uniformly accessible. The closest effort I know of is Fon with their Foneros (http://www.fon.com/en/), but simply not pervasive enough.

Where WiFi/VoIP may help offload network traffic is to allow VoIP on the handset within your own home or office WiFi network. But this is pretty much an iPhone/AT&#38;T issue, as with the likes of Android and others you may already do this.

Where there is room for improvement for carriers is a seamless hand-off between Mobile and WiFi/VoIP. As who wants to really buy a Femtocell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiFi is not a panacea for this exact reason. Rarely does one have access to WiFi in the way presumed. Most corporations keep their WiFi under lock and key, not granting guest access. And when they do have guest access, many times you have to accept a TOS via a webpage to get access each new session (think iPhones on Starbucks networks). Even at major hotels you are still required to sign-up and pay for access on a website. All of this creates friction in terms of seamless use of VoIP over WiFi when out in the wild.</p>
<p>Someone has to build a reliable global network that is uniformly accessible. The closest effort I know of is Fon with their Foneros (http://www.fon.com/en/), but simply not pervasive enough.</p>
<p>Where WiFi/VoIP may help offload network traffic is to allow VoIP on the handset within your own home or office WiFi network. But this is pretty much an iPhone/AT&amp;T issue, as with the likes of Android and others you may already do this.</p>
<p>Where there is room for improvement for carriers is a seamless hand-off between Mobile and WiFi/VoIP. As who wants to really buy a Femtocell?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Phillips</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I assumed the businessman in the anecdote had been to the customer's office prior days or prior business trips and got the key then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I assumed the businessman in the anecdote had been to the customer&#8217;s office prior days or prior business trips and got the key then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jicksta.com/posts/257#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question, which WiFi network did you switch over to once you walked into the skyscraper? Seems to me, it would be a high expectation to think you have open and free access to WiFi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question, which WiFi network did you switch over to once you walked into the skyscraper? Seems to me, it would be a high expectation to think you have open and free access to WiFi.</p>
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